I don’t quite know why this episode was entitled “Eggtown”. As far as I’m concerned it should have been called “Liars” or “Everyone Lies”.
Before I get started on my notes, there was a blooper near the beginning of the episode. I’ve never seen one on the show before so it surprised me. When Locke throws Ben’s uneaten breakfast and tray at a wall (which looked like concrete), the wall bounced!
It seems to me that Locke is starting to lose it. Despite his protestation to Ben that he’s in control (he knows that Ben is just playing his little mind games with him), the scene in the hall with the bouncing breakfast shows that Locke really is frustrated that he’s lost favor with the island. He even looks to Sawyer for vindication that he’s a “good” leader. Then, of course, he overreacts with Miles by putting a live grenade in his mouth to keep him quiet. Locke says he is doing it so that people will understand that there have to be consequences for violating Locke’s wishes. But I think a grenade in the mouth is a bit extreme. Was it the act of a man whose mind is going mad? I think so.
Locke tells Miles during the grenade encounter that he is “responsible for the well-being of the island.” Is that something he has come to believe on his own, or is it something he has been told by Jacob? Is this more evidence of Locke’s delusions?
Island Kate seems so conflicted to me… I think that she really wants to leave the island, but is being tempted by Sawyer’s proposition that they stay on the island together, as a couple. Before she decides what to do, I think that she wants to know if there is any chance that, after all she has done, there would be a life for her off the island. She looks to Miles for the answer. She wants to know if they (the freighter folk, but in essence the “outside” world) know who she is and what she has done. Of course they do… her crimes wouldn’t have been dismissed that easily. Miles gives her a piece of advice; stay on the island… no one would know that she hadn’t died. I think at the end she realizes that she and Sawyer would never make it together (he’s happy when Kate announces she’s definitely not pregnant, a sign that he’s not really that committed to their relationship).
I don’t yet understand the significance of the scene between Charlotte and Dan. Charlotte seems to be testing Dan’s ability to remember cards. But remember them from when, two minutes ago or a long time ago? Was it meant to show that Dan has had some psychic ability in the past and perhaps he has lost it or was this test to demonstrate that Dan has some kind of short-term memory problem? Charlotte seems to be encouraged that Dan remembered two out of three of the cards. She calls it progress. I guess we’ll have to learn more about this later.
Miles is such a jerk. His snotty comments irk me, but he is an interesting character and such a contrast from all of the other freighter folk.
We learn that despite Miles’ statement in an earlier episode that he doesn’t know why he was hired to find Ben, at least he knows who Ben is and what kind of power Ben has off the island. It was nice to see Miles get the upper hand, if even for a moment, when he tells Ben that the man he works for has put a lot of time and energy into finding Ben. Ben even looks a little frightened. Ben seems to know who Miles is; he knows the person that Miles works for and is afraid of him (or is at least as frightened as Ben ever shows).
But Miles has an agenda of his own, apart from the person that hired him. He needs money… precisely $3.2 Million. (I have no clue as to the significance of that figure, but it’s got to be for something very specific.) And he’s willing to tell his boss that Ben is dead in exchange for the money. He’ll even go so far as to silence Charlotte (who knows that Ben is alive). What could his separate purpose be? I just don’t know yet.
We learn that the helicopter has not made it to the freighter yet. Has it met some dire fate, or perhaps Regina is lying and Sayid and Desmond are being held captive? Next week’s episode will apparently tell…
On to Kate’s off island future…
I would say that what we saw in this episode happens fairly quickly after the Oceanic Six are “rescued”, so therefore I believe it happens before Hurley begins to go crazy and before Jack begins to snap under the secret that they are all hiding.
What do we learn about the fate of the characters? Well, we learn that they are all liars; that they have concocted a story meant to cover up what really happened to them.
From Jack’s testimony we learn that the lie begins with only eight survivors of the crash of Oceanic 815. (Wow, does that mean that all of the other forty-some people that really did survive are killed off or are left behind??) Jack’s tale recalls that the eight landed in the water and only through Kate’s efforts did they make it to land on a deserted island. Jack was badly hurt, and Kate nursed him back to health. She was the one that helped feed and shelter the castaways. She was the reason they survived. She was heroic. (Jack does not explain how only six were rescued.)
Jack lies that the Federal Marshall that was transporting Kate back to the United States died in the crash, that Jack never spoke to the Marshall, and that he learned of Kate’s legal condition directly from Kate. Jack never questioned Kate about why she was in custody because he felt that after what she had just done for the survivors, that she had earned his trust. Did he forgive her because he loved her? Perhaps, but he lies again and says that he doesn’t love her anymore.
Kate is very afraid that she will have to serve jail time… but she’s committed murder (along with several other felonies) and has admitted it to her mother. What would she expect? Why is it so important to her that she not serve any jail time? It must be that she is afraid of what will happen to her “son” if she does.
(The rest of my notes assumes that Aaron is indeed the son of Claire and not Kate’s own child that she has named Aaron in honor of Claire’s baby.)
I think that something must have happened to Claire on the. Remember that the psychic declared that Aaron had to be raised by Claire. Perhaps after Claire’s death/absence, someone from the island group had to raise him and Kate has been entrusted with the task of acting as Claire’s surrogate.
Why does Kate refuse her mother’s reconciliation advances? Why does Kate refuse to let her mother see or get close to Aaron? Is Kate’s hatred of her mother because of her betrayal that strong? Perhaps Kate rejects her mother because she knows that if she goes to jail that her mother will try to take Aaron, and that Kate knows that Aaron must be raised by her. I know. It’s a stretch. But I think that it’s the only plausible explanation.
Also, why is Kate – a woman that couldn’t settle down in one place (remember her marriage to the police officer) – so quick to accept the plea agreement that requires her not to leave the state of California for 10 years? Even the DA is surprised that Kate accepts the deal. Maybe it’s because it gives her a perfect excuse not to have to go back to the island. Maybe this is why she turns ignores Jack’s later plea to go back with him.
Back to Jack for a final comment. Jack still loves Kate, and it appears that Kate would love for something to happen between the two of them. But something is holding Jack back… it’s Aaron. Could it be that Jack was the cause of Claire’s death/absence, and that he just can’t face Aaron because of that? (Does Jack know that Aaron is his nephew?) I think that Jack is heartsick because he knows that he could have Kate if it weren’t for the fact of Aaron.
Saturday, February 23, 2008
Thursday, February 21, 2008
Slap My Head Moment 2/21/08
Why is it such a revelation that Ben has been leaving the island?
After all, we already know that Richard Albert and Ethan Rom have been leaving the island... We've seen them in the United States... they were working for Mittelos Bioscience!
After all, we already know that Richard Albert and Ethan Rom have been leaving the island... We've seen them in the United States... they were working for Mittelos Bioscience!
LOST 4.3 - The Economist
It’s probably a good thing that it took me so long to put my notes together. In the past few days the producers have made some statements that clear up some of my questions about this episode.
Such as: the producers have stated that there is absolutely no relationship or hidden meaning behind the similarities in Naomi’s and Elsa’s bracelets. (What the inscription on Naomi’s bracelet – “N, I’ll always be with you. RG” – means is still a mystery. Does the “R” stand for Regina, the woman on the boat that the freighter people have been talking to?)
Or this: I kept thinking that the first “Flash Forward” sequence in the episode was being shown out of order; that the hit that takes place in the Seychelle Islands actually takes place after the events in Germany and after it is revealed that Sayid is working for Ben. However, the producers have announced this week that within the structure of a LOST episode, all of the events that tie to one timeline or another are always shown in chronological order. However, it seemed to make more sense to me that the reason that the gentleman that Sayid killed was so upset after Sayid said he was part of the Oceanic 6 was that he had heard that someone from the Oceanic 6 was out to kill people on Ben’s “list”. After all, Sayid tells Ben after his incident with Elsa, that the people on the “list” will know he is coming for them.
Another note: I don’t really know where to put Sayid’s “Flash Forward” into the chronology of the “Future of LOST”. There’s nothing to tie him in with events in the outside world, or with other members of the Oceanic 6. So for now Sayid’s future will have to remain a separate item from the chronology. The producers have promised that by the end of the season we should know the story of the future of the Oceanic 6.
Now on to the rest of the episode.
I’m going to keep my comments tied to the various groups of people.
First, the Locke-ites.
There was a very intriguing moment for Locke in this episode! Remember, Locke was trying to find the Jacob’s cabin… he found the ring of ash but the cabin was gone. Is Jacob off somewhere else or is this a sign that Locke has done something to break his connection with the island? If so what did he do?
Leave it to Ben to give Locke a dig… Ben makes sure to raise the other Locke-ite’s suspicions concerning Locke’s leadership since he can no longer find the cabin.
I have to give it to Locke, he recovers from this set-back pretty quickly, although I still hate him for what he is doing to Hurley. Hurley makes a valiant attempt again to bring compromise to the situation, but Locke quickly shoots him down and then uses him in the ruse to capture Sayid, Kate and Miles.
I loved Hurley’s line when he first meets Miles and Miles calls him “Tubby”. “Oh great, the ship’s sent us another Sawyer!” I laughed out loud!
I don’t quite understand why Miles says “not yet” to Hurley when Hurley asks if the freighter people are there to kill them, unless it’s just Miles’ flip answer… he seems to be the kind of person who doesn’t care about anyone else’s interests but his own.
Of course, one of the big reveals in this episode was the contents of Ben’s secret closet. The business suits, suit cases, passports, foreign currency… lead me to only one conclusion. Ben has been coming and going from the island for a long time now, and has been hiding that fact from the other “Others’. What a rat! He won’t allow anyone else to leave the island, but comes and goes as he pleases.
By the way, two of the passports were from New Zealand and Switzerland. Obviously Ben gets around (or at least plans to)! The multitude of identities indicates that Ben has much to hide or much to hide from.
I really liked the scene in New Otherton with Kate and Sawyer having a frank discussion about the pros and cons of staying/leaving the island. Sawyer has really fallen for Kate and although he seems to find it easy to think that he could remain away from civilization, Kate still demonstrates her inability to settle in one place… Sawyer states the compelling reason not to go back (“is there anything waiting for you but handcuffs?”), but Kate just can’t see herself “playing house”. They are at an impass that may never be resolved. Will Sawyer sacrifice himself to get Kate off the island if that’s what she really wants?
I had a “Jonestown” feeling when Locke enters the place where they have Sayid and Ben imprisoned, carrying a pitcher of iced tea. Just about gasped thinking… he won’t do that, will he?
Near the end of the sequence at New Otherton, Sayid makes the supremely ironic statement to Locke that “the day I start trusting him (Ben) is the day I sell my soul”. Which we now know he ultimately does. Whatever happens to the Oceanic 6 really must be horrible. It makes emotional messes of Jack and Hurley and turns Sayid into Ben’s hired killer.
Some notes about the ‘Copter gang:
I still think that Naomi has some part yet to play in this season’s storyline. She is so prominently featured (they make sure to show her body often, and she even gets a ride home to the freighter), that even though she’s “dead”, that I think something is still going on.
It bothers me that Sayid removed Naomi’s bracelet. Isn’t that like grave robbing? Maybe he feels he can use the information contained on the bracelet in whatever he is planning?
Sayid finds the picture of Penny and Desmond on Naomi’s body. Was Naomi working at two purposes here? She was hired to get the four freighter folk to the island, but perhaps she was also secretly working with Penny? I hope we will someday know.
It does seem to me that the freighter people at least know about Penny. They act suspiciously when Desmond asks them if they know her or if she sent them. Perhaps they have only been told that Penny is looking for the island and that they must reach it first.
It’s interesting to know that the four people chosen for this mission (Dan, Miles, Charlotte, Frank) do not know much about each other, and that they also didn’t know much about Naomi. (Is that typical for covert ops?) It’s also made very clear that they only fairly tolerate each other. (One of the group complains that “Miles is a pain in the ass”.) It is a bit surprising to learn that they have not been told why they have been sent to get Ben. It’s also a bit hard to believe that these people would undertake such a mission without having been told why or why specifically they were chosen. I’d sure be wondering why!
It seems a bit shady that the freighter folk are only allowed to use certain channels on the radio at certain times, and that some of them are only allowed to talk to the freighter under certain circumstances and sometimes only to certain people. (Frank warns Dan not to talk to Minkowski, and to only speak to Regina about the “scientific stuff.) It seems that no one we’ve met so far is really aware of the whole picture. Everyone is hiding something.
Another cool reveal during the episode is that the island is indeed out of time synch with the rest of the world (the island seems to be behind the rest of the world). The time gap during Dan’s experiment was 31 minutes. This must be caused by the special properties of the island. However, I found it interesting that Dan wasn’t surprised by this fact. He even had an experiment designed specifically to measure the displacement. So, he knew what to expect. What’s even more interesting is that he said that the gap of 31 minutes wasn’t good! Does that mean that the gap is widening or that it was much more than expected?
It was touching that Jack seemed very hurt that Kate did not come back.
One more comment about the ‘Copter… Miles stresses to Frank that they must stay on a specific heading to leave the island. They must not stray under any circumstances. This is consistent with what Ben told Michael and Walt when he let them go at the end of season 2. I believe that this means that there is only one trajectory that can be taken to get off the island and to avoid the time displacement effects. But it does mean that they CAN get off the island!
There are just a few other things to say about Sayid’s future story.
It’s interesting that some of the Oceanic 6 seem to have a LOT of money… Kate seems to be well off. Sayid is at least being taken care of financially by Ben (he can afford to take a luxury trip to the Seychelle Islands to golf).
Could Elsa be a “shopper” for Alvar Hanso?
I didn’t quite get how Elsa knew that Sayid was one of the Oceanic 6. She mentions that Sayid doesn’t like to talk about the crash. Perhaps Sayid simply said he had been in a plane crash without telling her the details. Interesting that Elsa was working the other side of the spy game all along. I never saw it coming.
Finally the big reveal… and ultimately what it means.
My jaw dropped on the floor when it was revealed that Sayid is now working for Ben! Of course we don’t know much about his motivation, other than that apparently he is doing it in exchange for Ben’s “protection” of his friends. Why do Hurley, Kate and Jack need to be protected? What is the secret that they are all keeping? It must be something to do with Ben… does he get them off the island, and in exchange they have to lie for him?
One more note, and this one’s about Kate (in preparation for tonight’s episode):
Could Kate also be working for Ben now? Maybe Ben is the “he” that Kate was referring to at the end of Jack’s flash-forward! Maybe once they got off the island, Ben helped erase all of Kate’s felonies in exchange for her working for him, just like Sayid is having to work for Ben. Just a little thought to chew on…
Such as: the producers have stated that there is absolutely no relationship or hidden meaning behind the similarities in Naomi’s and Elsa’s bracelets. (What the inscription on Naomi’s bracelet – “N, I’ll always be with you. RG” – means is still a mystery. Does the “R” stand for Regina, the woman on the boat that the freighter people have been talking to?)
Or this: I kept thinking that the first “Flash Forward” sequence in the episode was being shown out of order; that the hit that takes place in the Seychelle Islands actually takes place after the events in Germany and after it is revealed that Sayid is working for Ben. However, the producers have announced this week that within the structure of a LOST episode, all of the events that tie to one timeline or another are always shown in chronological order. However, it seemed to make more sense to me that the reason that the gentleman that Sayid killed was so upset after Sayid said he was part of the Oceanic 6 was that he had heard that someone from the Oceanic 6 was out to kill people on Ben’s “list”. After all, Sayid tells Ben after his incident with Elsa, that the people on the “list” will know he is coming for them.
Another note: I don’t really know where to put Sayid’s “Flash Forward” into the chronology of the “Future of LOST”. There’s nothing to tie him in with events in the outside world, or with other members of the Oceanic 6. So for now Sayid’s future will have to remain a separate item from the chronology. The producers have promised that by the end of the season we should know the story of the future of the Oceanic 6.
Now on to the rest of the episode.
I’m going to keep my comments tied to the various groups of people.
First, the Locke-ites.
There was a very intriguing moment for Locke in this episode! Remember, Locke was trying to find the Jacob’s cabin… he found the ring of ash but the cabin was gone. Is Jacob off somewhere else or is this a sign that Locke has done something to break his connection with the island? If so what did he do?
Leave it to Ben to give Locke a dig… Ben makes sure to raise the other Locke-ite’s suspicions concerning Locke’s leadership since he can no longer find the cabin.
I have to give it to Locke, he recovers from this set-back pretty quickly, although I still hate him for what he is doing to Hurley. Hurley makes a valiant attempt again to bring compromise to the situation, but Locke quickly shoots him down and then uses him in the ruse to capture Sayid, Kate and Miles.
I loved Hurley’s line when he first meets Miles and Miles calls him “Tubby”. “Oh great, the ship’s sent us another Sawyer!” I laughed out loud!
I don’t quite understand why Miles says “not yet” to Hurley when Hurley asks if the freighter people are there to kill them, unless it’s just Miles’ flip answer… he seems to be the kind of person who doesn’t care about anyone else’s interests but his own.
Of course, one of the big reveals in this episode was the contents of Ben’s secret closet. The business suits, suit cases, passports, foreign currency… lead me to only one conclusion. Ben has been coming and going from the island for a long time now, and has been hiding that fact from the other “Others’. What a rat! He won’t allow anyone else to leave the island, but comes and goes as he pleases.
By the way, two of the passports were from New Zealand and Switzerland. Obviously Ben gets around (or at least plans to)! The multitude of identities indicates that Ben has much to hide or much to hide from.
I really liked the scene in New Otherton with Kate and Sawyer having a frank discussion about the pros and cons of staying/leaving the island. Sawyer has really fallen for Kate and although he seems to find it easy to think that he could remain away from civilization, Kate still demonstrates her inability to settle in one place… Sawyer states the compelling reason not to go back (“is there anything waiting for you but handcuffs?”), but Kate just can’t see herself “playing house”. They are at an impass that may never be resolved. Will Sawyer sacrifice himself to get Kate off the island if that’s what she really wants?
I had a “Jonestown” feeling when Locke enters the place where they have Sayid and Ben imprisoned, carrying a pitcher of iced tea. Just about gasped thinking… he won’t do that, will he?
Near the end of the sequence at New Otherton, Sayid makes the supremely ironic statement to Locke that “the day I start trusting him (Ben) is the day I sell my soul”. Which we now know he ultimately does. Whatever happens to the Oceanic 6 really must be horrible. It makes emotional messes of Jack and Hurley and turns Sayid into Ben’s hired killer.
Some notes about the ‘Copter gang:
I still think that Naomi has some part yet to play in this season’s storyline. She is so prominently featured (they make sure to show her body often, and she even gets a ride home to the freighter), that even though she’s “dead”, that I think something is still going on.
It bothers me that Sayid removed Naomi’s bracelet. Isn’t that like grave robbing? Maybe he feels he can use the information contained on the bracelet in whatever he is planning?
Sayid finds the picture of Penny and Desmond on Naomi’s body. Was Naomi working at two purposes here? She was hired to get the four freighter folk to the island, but perhaps she was also secretly working with Penny? I hope we will someday know.
It does seem to me that the freighter people at least know about Penny. They act suspiciously when Desmond asks them if they know her or if she sent them. Perhaps they have only been told that Penny is looking for the island and that they must reach it first.
It’s interesting to know that the four people chosen for this mission (Dan, Miles, Charlotte, Frank) do not know much about each other, and that they also didn’t know much about Naomi. (Is that typical for covert ops?) It’s also made very clear that they only fairly tolerate each other. (One of the group complains that “Miles is a pain in the ass”.) It is a bit surprising to learn that they have not been told why they have been sent to get Ben. It’s also a bit hard to believe that these people would undertake such a mission without having been told why or why specifically they were chosen. I’d sure be wondering why!
It seems a bit shady that the freighter folk are only allowed to use certain channels on the radio at certain times, and that some of them are only allowed to talk to the freighter under certain circumstances and sometimes only to certain people. (Frank warns Dan not to talk to Minkowski, and to only speak to Regina about the “scientific stuff.) It seems that no one we’ve met so far is really aware of the whole picture. Everyone is hiding something.
Another cool reveal during the episode is that the island is indeed out of time synch with the rest of the world (the island seems to be behind the rest of the world). The time gap during Dan’s experiment was 31 minutes. This must be caused by the special properties of the island. However, I found it interesting that Dan wasn’t surprised by this fact. He even had an experiment designed specifically to measure the displacement. So, he knew what to expect. What’s even more interesting is that he said that the gap of 31 minutes wasn’t good! Does that mean that the gap is widening or that it was much more than expected?
It was touching that Jack seemed very hurt that Kate did not come back.
One more comment about the ‘Copter… Miles stresses to Frank that they must stay on a specific heading to leave the island. They must not stray under any circumstances. This is consistent with what Ben told Michael and Walt when he let them go at the end of season 2. I believe that this means that there is only one trajectory that can be taken to get off the island and to avoid the time displacement effects. But it does mean that they CAN get off the island!
There are just a few other things to say about Sayid’s future story.
It’s interesting that some of the Oceanic 6 seem to have a LOT of money… Kate seems to be well off. Sayid is at least being taken care of financially by Ben (he can afford to take a luxury trip to the Seychelle Islands to golf).
Could Elsa be a “shopper” for Alvar Hanso?
I didn’t quite get how Elsa knew that Sayid was one of the Oceanic 6. She mentions that Sayid doesn’t like to talk about the crash. Perhaps Sayid simply said he had been in a plane crash without telling her the details. Interesting that Elsa was working the other side of the spy game all along. I never saw it coming.
Finally the big reveal… and ultimately what it means.
My jaw dropped on the floor when it was revealed that Sayid is now working for Ben! Of course we don’t know much about his motivation, other than that apparently he is doing it in exchange for Ben’s “protection” of his friends. Why do Hurley, Kate and Jack need to be protected? What is the secret that they are all keeping? It must be something to do with Ben… does he get them off the island, and in exchange they have to lie for him?
One more note, and this one’s about Kate (in preparation for tonight’s episode):
Could Kate also be working for Ben now? Maybe Ben is the “he” that Kate was referring to at the end of Jack’s flash-forward! Maybe once they got off the island, Ben helped erase all of Kate’s felonies in exchange for her working for him, just like Sayid is having to work for Ben. Just a little thought to chew on…
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
The Future of LOST
The Future Of LOST
--Sometime shortly after the disappearance of Oceanic Flight 815, robot probes from the Christianne 1 are searching the seabed along the Sunda Trench for sunken trading ships (the Black Rock perhaps).
It’s stated that the ship’s magnetometers are picking up lots of anomalies. What could be causing them?
They are not searching for fight 815, but when they come upon an Oceanic jet they immediately assume it’s 815.
(That’s a big assumption to make so quickly… I would think that they would at least have to check with the airline and other experts before they make such a presumption. Could this be a clue that the discovery was manufactured?)
--News reports on the discovery of the ship leak out by the next morning. The body of the plane is complete, but broken into several pieces. All passengers are declared dead. Statements are made that it would be next to impossible to recover the bodies. Gruesome pictures of the bodies are shown.
(Seems weird that news organizations would be allowed to or would even want to air pictures of the bodies. I would think there would be some kind of standard that would not allow them to do that.)
--Daniel Farraday, in Essex, Massachusetts, becomes incredibly upset while watching reports of the discovery. Daniel is asked why he’s become so emotional… he replies that he doesn’t know.
(I haven’t got a clue either. Perhaps he knew someone on board.)
--Miles hears the news of 815’s discovery while in Inglewood, California. He arrives at the home of a woman with the last name Gardner. Miles has been summoned to exorcise a ghost from Ms. Gardner’s home. Miles “ghostbusting” talent is apparently real. He convinces the spirit of Ms. Gardner’s dead grandson to reveal the location of his money stash.
(Apparently the mechanism that Miles uses creates an environment conducive for spirit activity. Note that I think I saw pictures of young Mr. Eko on the wall of Ms. Gardner’s home!)
--Charlotte S. Lewis (C.S. Lewis??) sees a newspaper headlining the story of the discovery of the wreckage of flight 815. She does not believe the story. She seems to have had some prior connection to the Dharma initiative. She bribes her way onto an archeological dig. How does she know about the dig? “… People in our line of work are terrible at keeping secrets.” The dig has uncovered the skeleton of a polar bear. Charlotte finds a collar bearing the Dharma “Hydra” logo. It was buried with the skeleton.
(One of the “Hydra” station polar bears from the island? Teleportation? Time Travel?)
--Frank, the pilot, is in the Bahamas. He’s playing with a small toy airplane. He drops it in an aquarium and it sinks… flight 815? Frank notices that something is not quite right with the image that is being shown of the body of pilot Seth Norris. Seth’s not wearing his wedding ring, something Frank does not believe would ever happen. Franks smells something fishy. He calls the crash hotline and tries to report what he knows.
(This reinforces the idea that the crash has been manufactured to cover up reality. Who initiated the cover up and why? I think Dharma has gotten Oceanic to go along with the ruse. Why? Because they don’t want anyone getting anywhere near the island.)
--Naomi is meeting with Mr. Abbadon. They are meeting in some deserted offices/warehouse. Mr. Abbadon has hired Naomi to go on a mission, and he has provided her with a team. Naomi does not believe that these people will be able to carry out the mission. She says they have no field or military experience. She calls them the “head case”, the “ghostbuster” and “drunk”. Naomi seems to have complete knowledge of the goal of their mission. She asks what she is to do if she meets up with any survivors of Oceanic 815. Abbadon advises her that there were no survivors, but she insists and he deflects her question, “Just do what you were hired for.”
(So, I think that maybe Noami did some research or was given information about the 815 survivors by Dharma and she made up a cover story to tell anyone that she met from 815.
Naomi doesn’t think much of the four that Abbadon has picked, that they’re not the right kind of people to carry out the mission… then they had to have been chosen for a particular reason. In my previous post I mentioned some of the reasons I think each person was chosen.)
All of the above has happened during the 91 days that the 815 survivors have been on the Island.
Sometime in the future…
--Hurley is living in Los Angeles. He’s having trouble dealing with something. He sees the ghost of Charlie at a mini-mart. He’s arrested after a car chase with the police. At the station, he sees another vision of Charlie. This time an image of Charlie is swimming in the interrogation room mirror. On Charlie’s hand are written the words “They need you.” The hallucinations drive Hurley to request to be admitted to a mental institution.
(During the chase, Hurley is driving the car he and his dad were going to rebuild.
Hurley declares that he is one of the Oceanic 6. Therefore we know at least 6 of the survivors get off the island. Hurley, Kate and Jack are three of them.
Hurley’s arresting officer is Ana Lucia’s former partner. Hurley denies having met Ana on the plane. There’s got to be a reason that he wouldn’t want to mention knowing her.
Hurley MUST be in a bad frame of mind… he turns down the offer of a donut!
Who is the “They” Charlie is referring to? It has to be the people that did NOT get off the island.)
--While at the institution, Hurley is visited by Mr. Matthew Abbadan. He says he is an attorney from Oceanic Airlines. He’s a creepy dude. He says he’s heard about Hurley’s episode. He says Oceanic feels guilty about his troubles and wants to help his situation. They will move him to a nicer facility, one near the ocean. Hurley says he doesn’t want to be near the ocean. Hurley begins to get suspicious and asks Abbadan for a business card, which Abbadan does not have. Mr. Abbadan asks one last question, “are they alive?” before Hurley freaks out and Mr. Abbadan disappears.
(I believe Mr. Abbadan is actually from Dharma. He’s trying to determine what really happened on the island and if anyone is still alive.)
--Hurley has another vision of Charlie. Charlie says that he is dead, but that he is also “here”. He tries to convince Hurley that “they need you”, and that Hurley is hiding from the truth, that he knows what he need to do.
(At the beginning of the scene, another patient tells Hurley to be careful, that someone is watching him. Hurley turns to see Charlie. This is a misdirection… there is another man in the background that is looking at Hurley. I believe the patient was actually talking about that man, not Charlie. So, is Charlie really dead? Yes, I think so… but what did Charlie mean when he said he was “here”? It could be that Charlie is just Hurley’s conscience, egging him on to doing what is right, but I think it’s possible that this vision is a manifestation of the spirit of the island that has remained with Hurley, and that the island needs him to come back.)
--Later, Jack (who is also living in LA) visits Hurley. Jack seems to be in a fairly good place. He’s back to work at the hospital, trying to grow a beard. He is genuinely happy to see Hurley. Apparently, the Oceanic 6 have become celebrities. Hurley asks Jack if the reporters are leaving him alone, now… Jack says he only has to sign autographs every now and then. Hurley becomes suspicious of the reason for Jack’s visit. Jack admits that after he saw Hurley’s chase and had heard about Hurley’s mental trouble, that he was wondering if Hurley was going to “tell”. Hurley tells Jack that “I don’t think we did the right thing Jack. It want’s us to come back… it’s going to do everything it can…” Jack says “we’re never going back…” Hurley says “never say never!”
(What has happened to these people? Even though the six have escaped the island, they have obviously left people behind. They also had to have escaped under circumstances that they don’t want anyone else to know about.)
Farther into the future…
--Bearded Jack is also beginning to fall apart. Whatever happened to he and the others has been weighing too heavily on his mind and heart. He’s drinking; he’s taking oxycodone like candy. He’s driven to the point of suicide. He’s been using his Oceanic Air golden pass to fly as much as he can… he’s trying to get back to the island, wishing that every plane he is on will crash back there.
--Jack reads something in the paper that leads him to a funeral parlor. Someone he knows has died, but someone who is neither friend nor family. Who could it be? Someone without much of a life in the world… no one attends the funeral.
(I haven’t got a clue as to who this might be. I keep thinking that the coffin was too small to have an adult in it. Could it be Ben? He’s kind of short.)
--Jack talks to the chief of surgery at the hospital about his dad as if he were still alive.
(Is Jack now hallucinating as well? Or was he just in some drug/alcohol stupor and misspoke?)
--Jack becomes obsessive. His apartment is filled with charts and books, trying to find the island. In final desperation, he calls Kate and asks her to meet him. He shows Kate the obituary, and wonders why she was not at the funeral. She asks Jack why he would think that she would go. Jack expresses to Kate that he wants desperately to get back to the island. Kate warns him that “this is not going to change”… their new life. Jack tells her that he is “sick of lying”, that “we made a mistake. We were not supposed to leave.” Kate replies “yes, we were.” Kate can see that she won’t change Jack’s mind. She leaves.
(Kate seems pretty well put together in this scene, and at peace. She’s apparently OK with whatever has happened. She mentions that “he” is waiting for her. Perhaps that “he” is what is making the situation bearable for her. I think that she got off the island because she was pregnant and has had a baby.)
--Sometime shortly after the disappearance of Oceanic Flight 815, robot probes from the Christianne 1 are searching the seabed along the Sunda Trench for sunken trading ships (the Black Rock perhaps).
It’s stated that the ship’s magnetometers are picking up lots of anomalies. What could be causing them?
They are not searching for fight 815, but when they come upon an Oceanic jet they immediately assume it’s 815.
(That’s a big assumption to make so quickly… I would think that they would at least have to check with the airline and other experts before they make such a presumption. Could this be a clue that the discovery was manufactured?)
--News reports on the discovery of the ship leak out by the next morning. The body of the plane is complete, but broken into several pieces. All passengers are declared dead. Statements are made that it would be next to impossible to recover the bodies. Gruesome pictures of the bodies are shown.
(Seems weird that news organizations would be allowed to or would even want to air pictures of the bodies. I would think there would be some kind of standard that would not allow them to do that.)
--Daniel Farraday, in Essex, Massachusetts, becomes incredibly upset while watching reports of the discovery. Daniel is asked why he’s become so emotional… he replies that he doesn’t know.
(I haven’t got a clue either. Perhaps he knew someone on board.)
--Miles hears the news of 815’s discovery while in Inglewood, California. He arrives at the home of a woman with the last name Gardner. Miles has been summoned to exorcise a ghost from Ms. Gardner’s home. Miles “ghostbusting” talent is apparently real. He convinces the spirit of Ms. Gardner’s dead grandson to reveal the location of his money stash.
(Apparently the mechanism that Miles uses creates an environment conducive for spirit activity. Note that I think I saw pictures of young Mr. Eko on the wall of Ms. Gardner’s home!)
--Charlotte S. Lewis (C.S. Lewis??) sees a newspaper headlining the story of the discovery of the wreckage of flight 815. She does not believe the story. She seems to have had some prior connection to the Dharma initiative. She bribes her way onto an archeological dig. How does she know about the dig? “… People in our line of work are terrible at keeping secrets.” The dig has uncovered the skeleton of a polar bear. Charlotte finds a collar bearing the Dharma “Hydra” logo. It was buried with the skeleton.
(One of the “Hydra” station polar bears from the island? Teleportation? Time Travel?)
--Frank, the pilot, is in the Bahamas. He’s playing with a small toy airplane. He drops it in an aquarium and it sinks… flight 815? Frank notices that something is not quite right with the image that is being shown of the body of pilot Seth Norris. Seth’s not wearing his wedding ring, something Frank does not believe would ever happen. Franks smells something fishy. He calls the crash hotline and tries to report what he knows.
(This reinforces the idea that the crash has been manufactured to cover up reality. Who initiated the cover up and why? I think Dharma has gotten Oceanic to go along with the ruse. Why? Because they don’t want anyone getting anywhere near the island.)
--Naomi is meeting with Mr. Abbadon. They are meeting in some deserted offices/warehouse. Mr. Abbadon has hired Naomi to go on a mission, and he has provided her with a team. Naomi does not believe that these people will be able to carry out the mission. She says they have no field or military experience. She calls them the “head case”, the “ghostbuster” and “drunk”. Naomi seems to have complete knowledge of the goal of their mission. She asks what she is to do if she meets up with any survivors of Oceanic 815. Abbadon advises her that there were no survivors, but she insists and he deflects her question, “Just do what you were hired for.”
(So, I think that maybe Noami did some research or was given information about the 815 survivors by Dharma and she made up a cover story to tell anyone that she met from 815.
Naomi doesn’t think much of the four that Abbadon has picked, that they’re not the right kind of people to carry out the mission… then they had to have been chosen for a particular reason. In my previous post I mentioned some of the reasons I think each person was chosen.)
All of the above has happened during the 91 days that the 815 survivors have been on the Island.
Sometime in the future…
--Hurley is living in Los Angeles. He’s having trouble dealing with something. He sees the ghost of Charlie at a mini-mart. He’s arrested after a car chase with the police. At the station, he sees another vision of Charlie. This time an image of Charlie is swimming in the interrogation room mirror. On Charlie’s hand are written the words “They need you.” The hallucinations drive Hurley to request to be admitted to a mental institution.
(During the chase, Hurley is driving the car he and his dad were going to rebuild.
Hurley declares that he is one of the Oceanic 6. Therefore we know at least 6 of the survivors get off the island. Hurley, Kate and Jack are three of them.
Hurley’s arresting officer is Ana Lucia’s former partner. Hurley denies having met Ana on the plane. There’s got to be a reason that he wouldn’t want to mention knowing her.
Hurley MUST be in a bad frame of mind… he turns down the offer of a donut!
Who is the “They” Charlie is referring to? It has to be the people that did NOT get off the island.)
--While at the institution, Hurley is visited by Mr. Matthew Abbadan. He says he is an attorney from Oceanic Airlines. He’s a creepy dude. He says he’s heard about Hurley’s episode. He says Oceanic feels guilty about his troubles and wants to help his situation. They will move him to a nicer facility, one near the ocean. Hurley says he doesn’t want to be near the ocean. Hurley begins to get suspicious and asks Abbadan for a business card, which Abbadan does not have. Mr. Abbadan asks one last question, “are they alive?” before Hurley freaks out and Mr. Abbadan disappears.
(I believe Mr. Abbadan is actually from Dharma. He’s trying to determine what really happened on the island and if anyone is still alive.)
--Hurley has another vision of Charlie. Charlie says that he is dead, but that he is also “here”. He tries to convince Hurley that “they need you”, and that Hurley is hiding from the truth, that he knows what he need to do.
(At the beginning of the scene, another patient tells Hurley to be careful, that someone is watching him. Hurley turns to see Charlie. This is a misdirection… there is another man in the background that is looking at Hurley. I believe the patient was actually talking about that man, not Charlie. So, is Charlie really dead? Yes, I think so… but what did Charlie mean when he said he was “here”? It could be that Charlie is just Hurley’s conscience, egging him on to doing what is right, but I think it’s possible that this vision is a manifestation of the spirit of the island that has remained with Hurley, and that the island needs him to come back.)
--Later, Jack (who is also living in LA) visits Hurley. Jack seems to be in a fairly good place. He’s back to work at the hospital, trying to grow a beard. He is genuinely happy to see Hurley. Apparently, the Oceanic 6 have become celebrities. Hurley asks Jack if the reporters are leaving him alone, now… Jack says he only has to sign autographs every now and then. Hurley becomes suspicious of the reason for Jack’s visit. Jack admits that after he saw Hurley’s chase and had heard about Hurley’s mental trouble, that he was wondering if Hurley was going to “tell”. Hurley tells Jack that “I don’t think we did the right thing Jack. It want’s us to come back… it’s going to do everything it can…” Jack says “we’re never going back…” Hurley says “never say never!”
(What has happened to these people? Even though the six have escaped the island, they have obviously left people behind. They also had to have escaped under circumstances that they don’t want anyone else to know about.)
Farther into the future…
--Bearded Jack is also beginning to fall apart. Whatever happened to he and the others has been weighing too heavily on his mind and heart. He’s drinking; he’s taking oxycodone like candy. He’s driven to the point of suicide. He’s been using his Oceanic Air golden pass to fly as much as he can… he’s trying to get back to the island, wishing that every plane he is on will crash back there.
--Jack reads something in the paper that leads him to a funeral parlor. Someone he knows has died, but someone who is neither friend nor family. Who could it be? Someone without much of a life in the world… no one attends the funeral.
(I haven’t got a clue as to who this might be. I keep thinking that the coffin was too small to have an adult in it. Could it be Ben? He’s kind of short.)
--Jack talks to the chief of surgery at the hospital about his dad as if he were still alive.
(Is Jack now hallucinating as well? Or was he just in some drug/alcohol stupor and misspoke?)
--Jack becomes obsessive. His apartment is filled with charts and books, trying to find the island. In final desperation, he calls Kate and asks her to meet him. He shows Kate the obituary, and wonders why she was not at the funeral. She asks Jack why he would think that she would go. Jack expresses to Kate that he wants desperately to get back to the island. Kate warns him that “this is not going to change”… their new life. Jack tells her that he is “sick of lying”, that “we made a mistake. We were not supposed to leave.” Kate replies “yes, we were.” Kate can see that she won’t change Jack’s mind. She leaves.
(Kate seems pretty well put together in this scene, and at peace. She’s apparently OK with whatever has happened. She mentions that “he” is waiting for her. Perhaps that “he” is what is making the situation bearable for her. I think that she got off the island because she was pregnant and has had a baby.)
Tuesday, February 12, 2008
LOST 4.2 - Confirmed Dead
I really enjoyed this episode. The writer’s found a great way to introduce us to the four “freighter people” while giving us some peeks at what’s been happening off the island in the past 91 days. I’ll cover those off the island events in a separate post.
Let’s start with Locke and his entourage…
As you know, I’ve really come to hate Locke lately. His first appearance in this episode made me smirk. Locke seemed to be “communing” with the island. OK, I know it’s been demonstrated that he has a special connection to the island, but now he’s coming off to me like he’s some kind of island swami, and his demeanor seems more hokey than real. Not that this is a bad thing… it helps reinforce my opinion of him. I just hope they don’t take it too far.
I think that Hurley is going to regret accidentally letting on that he knows about the cabin. (It was obvious to me that Ben and Locke both caught on to this… even though they seemed to ignore it.) Just wait until Ben and Locke find out that Hurley’s also seen Jacob! That will be a hoot!
I would like to have seen a bit more discussion about who Locke is taking his orders from. (After Sawyer questions him, Locke tells Sawyer that he is taking his orders from a taller Walt.) I think that Locke is in reality still taking his orders from Jacob, or whatever Jacob is… and I think that Locke doesn’t want the rest of his entourage to know the true nature of his relationship with Jacob. He used the vision of Walt as a deflection. I think that “Walt” was actually another physical manifestation of Jacob, one that could exist outside the cabin, and that we’ve actually seen three incarnations so far (unknown bearded man, Jack’s dad, Walt).
Sawyer comes across much smarter in this episode than usual. I love the way that he keeps pestering Locke about why he is keeping Ben around. We all know that Ben’s a menace… I’m glad that someone is still pointing that out to the somewhat oblivious Locke (perhaps he’s still communing with the island), who calls Ben “harmless. It takes “harmless” Ben’s shooting Charlotte to wake Locke up to the threat (he finally admits that he must “clean up his mess”).
Locke’s “clean up”, of course, leads to one of the episodes climaxes… first Ben’s denial that he knows what the smoke monster is (I think he’s lying), and then his acknowledgement that he knows who the “freighter people” are because he has someone on board their ship! What does that mean? I think it means that Ben has had a lot more contact off island than we’ve ever been lead to think. Perhaps he’s even been off island himself!
Which leads me to a discussion of the “freighter people”.
Even though I know we are supposed to believe that these characters are the new “bad guys” of LOST, I really liked all four of them. They’re all really intriguing characters!
What a weird guy! Dan, the “physicist” – “I don’t like to be pigeonholed” – is described as a genius by another character, and he is such a bad liar. I guess he wasn’t selected for this mission because of his acting chops. I think it’s pretty obvious that he was picked to participate because it was thought that the team might encounter some strange physical phenomenon (“the light doesn’t scatter quite right”) and that his expertise might be needed in that area.
Even though Miles comes across as a jackass, he’s such a cool character. In just a few minutes of screen time, the writers and actor have made him totally believable as a bonafide “ghostbuster”. After all, Naomi “told” him that our survivors didn’t kill her… more on that later. Why was Miles chosen for this team? I think it was because of the strange spiritual forces of the island (whispering voices anyone?). I think that it was thought that Miles’ talent would be extremely valuable in communicating with the island.
Charlotte Staples Lewis (C.S. Lewis?!) is a bit different than the previous two. She seems almost surprised that she is really “here”, on the island… like being “here” is something she’s aspired to for some time. I don’t quite know why she was chosen. In her flashback (again, I’ll discuss that one in another post), she seems to be seeking out Dharma, trying to find evidence of the Initiative. It seems that she does know some pieces of the story of the island… she’s very curious when she sees Claire and Aaron. She asks if the baby was born on the island, as if she knew the difficulties of pregnant women on the island. Why would she be chosen for this mission when someone/thing/entity is so dead set on keeping everything secret?
Frank is obviously tied directly to the story of Flight 815. Why was he chosen for this mission? We know that Frank was trying to blow the whistle on the 815 cover-up. Perhaps he was sent on the mission not only because he could pilot a ‘copter, but also to get rid of him… to shove him aside so that he couldn’t make more noise about what he knew.
A few notes about Naomi – I don’t think that she’s really dead! Remember last season during Paolo and Nikki’s episode, we continued to see flashbacks from their perspective even though we thought that they were dead? The producers explained that on LOST you NEVER see anything from the perspective of a dead person and that that should have been a giveaway that Paolo and Nikki weren’t dead, just paralyzed. Well… if that is one of the “rules” of the LOST world, then Naomi can’t be dead because we saw a scene in this episode from her perspective. It couldn’t have been from Mr. Abbadon’s perspective since we haven’t met him in the current time frame yet. I expect we will see more of Naomi!
Finally… what is the purpose of the mission of the freighter people? As Miles reveals at the other climax of the episode, it is to find Ben. But why?
At first it seems strange that Miles, Dan and Frank are all unfazed by the presence of 815 survivors on the island. I think that they were told that the survivors might be there, and that they were told to lie to them, tell them anything to keep them out of the way so that the team’s real mission could be accomplished. (However, I have to admit that this does not explain why Naomi originally told the group that she had been dispatched by Penny to find Desmond. Maybe she had to make up that story to cover their real mission?)
I think that the Dharma Initiative sent the team there to avenge the people that were killed in the Purge. I think they were sent to kill all of the Others. Why else would they have a box filled with haz-mat uniforms and gas masks? They were going to do unto Ben as Ben did unto them! If the 815 survivors got killed in the process, then they would be acceptable collateral damage.
So, in a very real sense, Ben hasn’t been lying… he told Jack that everyone would die if he contacted the freighter. He just didn’t say it was because of him!
Let’s start with Locke and his entourage…
As you know, I’ve really come to hate Locke lately. His first appearance in this episode made me smirk. Locke seemed to be “communing” with the island. OK, I know it’s been demonstrated that he has a special connection to the island, but now he’s coming off to me like he’s some kind of island swami, and his demeanor seems more hokey than real. Not that this is a bad thing… it helps reinforce my opinion of him. I just hope they don’t take it too far.
I think that Hurley is going to regret accidentally letting on that he knows about the cabin. (It was obvious to me that Ben and Locke both caught on to this… even though they seemed to ignore it.) Just wait until Ben and Locke find out that Hurley’s also seen Jacob! That will be a hoot!
I would like to have seen a bit more discussion about who Locke is taking his orders from. (After Sawyer questions him, Locke tells Sawyer that he is taking his orders from a taller Walt.) I think that Locke is in reality still taking his orders from Jacob, or whatever Jacob is… and I think that Locke doesn’t want the rest of his entourage to know the true nature of his relationship with Jacob. He used the vision of Walt as a deflection. I think that “Walt” was actually another physical manifestation of Jacob, one that could exist outside the cabin, and that we’ve actually seen three incarnations so far (unknown bearded man, Jack’s dad, Walt).
Sawyer comes across much smarter in this episode than usual. I love the way that he keeps pestering Locke about why he is keeping Ben around. We all know that Ben’s a menace… I’m glad that someone is still pointing that out to the somewhat oblivious Locke (perhaps he’s still communing with the island), who calls Ben “harmless. It takes “harmless” Ben’s shooting Charlotte to wake Locke up to the threat (he finally admits that he must “clean up his mess”).
Locke’s “clean up”, of course, leads to one of the episodes climaxes… first Ben’s denial that he knows what the smoke monster is (I think he’s lying), and then his acknowledgement that he knows who the “freighter people” are because he has someone on board their ship! What does that mean? I think it means that Ben has had a lot more contact off island than we’ve ever been lead to think. Perhaps he’s even been off island himself!
Which leads me to a discussion of the “freighter people”.
Even though I know we are supposed to believe that these characters are the new “bad guys” of LOST, I really liked all four of them. They’re all really intriguing characters!
What a weird guy! Dan, the “physicist” – “I don’t like to be pigeonholed” – is described as a genius by another character, and he is such a bad liar. I guess he wasn’t selected for this mission because of his acting chops. I think it’s pretty obvious that he was picked to participate because it was thought that the team might encounter some strange physical phenomenon (“the light doesn’t scatter quite right”) and that his expertise might be needed in that area.
Even though Miles comes across as a jackass, he’s such a cool character. In just a few minutes of screen time, the writers and actor have made him totally believable as a bonafide “ghostbuster”. After all, Naomi “told” him that our survivors didn’t kill her… more on that later. Why was Miles chosen for this team? I think it was because of the strange spiritual forces of the island (whispering voices anyone?). I think that it was thought that Miles’ talent would be extremely valuable in communicating with the island.
Charlotte Staples Lewis (C.S. Lewis?!) is a bit different than the previous two. She seems almost surprised that she is really “here”, on the island… like being “here” is something she’s aspired to for some time. I don’t quite know why she was chosen. In her flashback (again, I’ll discuss that one in another post), she seems to be seeking out Dharma, trying to find evidence of the Initiative. It seems that she does know some pieces of the story of the island… she’s very curious when she sees Claire and Aaron. She asks if the baby was born on the island, as if she knew the difficulties of pregnant women on the island. Why would she be chosen for this mission when someone/thing/entity is so dead set on keeping everything secret?
Frank is obviously tied directly to the story of Flight 815. Why was he chosen for this mission? We know that Frank was trying to blow the whistle on the 815 cover-up. Perhaps he was sent on the mission not only because he could pilot a ‘copter, but also to get rid of him… to shove him aside so that he couldn’t make more noise about what he knew.
A few notes about Naomi – I don’t think that she’s really dead! Remember last season during Paolo and Nikki’s episode, we continued to see flashbacks from their perspective even though we thought that they were dead? The producers explained that on LOST you NEVER see anything from the perspective of a dead person and that that should have been a giveaway that Paolo and Nikki weren’t dead, just paralyzed. Well… if that is one of the “rules” of the LOST world, then Naomi can’t be dead because we saw a scene in this episode from her perspective. It couldn’t have been from Mr. Abbadon’s perspective since we haven’t met him in the current time frame yet. I expect we will see more of Naomi!
Finally… what is the purpose of the mission of the freighter people? As Miles reveals at the other climax of the episode, it is to find Ben. But why?
At first it seems strange that Miles, Dan and Frank are all unfazed by the presence of 815 survivors on the island. I think that they were told that the survivors might be there, and that they were told to lie to them, tell them anything to keep them out of the way so that the team’s real mission could be accomplished. (However, I have to admit that this does not explain why Naomi originally told the group that she had been dispatched by Penny to find Desmond. Maybe she had to make up that story to cover their real mission?)
I think that the Dharma Initiative sent the team there to avenge the people that were killed in the Purge. I think they were sent to kill all of the Others. Why else would they have a box filled with haz-mat uniforms and gas masks? They were going to do unto Ben as Ben did unto them! If the 815 survivors got killed in the process, then they would be acceptable collateral damage.
So, in a very real sense, Ben hasn’t been lying… he told Jack that everyone would die if he contacted the freighter. He just didn’t say it was because of him!
Sunday, February 10, 2008
More Notes: LOST 4.1 - The Beginning Of The End
I’ve had a chance to look back through “The Beginning Of The End” and have a few more comments.
As I said in my previous post, I really hate Locke right now. I was entirely ecstatic when Jack “shot” Locke. It doesn’t matter that the gun wasn’t loaded, I still loved the moment.
It’s kind of disturbing that I really liked all of the violent moments in the show…
I particularly loved Danielle for slugging Ben’s face when he called Alex “his” daughter. In fact, I’m very pleased with all of the beating that Ben is taking!
One of the gentle moments that I loved took place when Hurley was talking with Bernard about his lottery winnings. He was expressing how freeing it would be to get back to the real world, where the money won’t matter any more. Particularly sad when juxtaposed against what we’ve seen of Hurley’s future.
Hurley’s always been one of my favorite characters. It’s nice to know that Hurley is “special”… that he too has a connection to the spirit of the Island.
I’m wondering why Hurley saw Jacob in the form of Jack’s dad! Does Jacob present “himself” to each person differently? Does he take on different forms? What is the significance of Hurley’s vision?
There’s been much discussion about the “eye” that Hurley saw and to whom it belonged. My first (and still strongest) impression is that it belongs to Locke… he had been back to the cabin to commune with Jacob and get “further instructions”.
I laughed on my second viewing of the episode when Kate once again screws up by taking events into her own hands (remember when she followed Jack, Locke and Sawyer out to meet Mr. Friendly in season 2). She thinks she is helping by tracking Naomi, but ultimately her actions allow Naomi to warn her cohorts on the freighter.
Another reason I hate Locke: I hate how he preyed on Hurley’s grief when trying to convince Hurley to follow him. I think that if it hadn’t been for Locke’s pushing he would have stayed with Jack.
Although I will give this to Locke, he genuinely appeared sympathetic when he witnessed Hurley telling Claire that Charlie was dead.
But I got extremely angry again when Locke tells the gathered survivors “All I have ever done has been in the best interest of all of us.” To that I say CRAP!!! See my comment in the post below.
Finally a note about the split:
Locke’s group--
In the context presented in the episode, I understand Hurley, Claire and Sawyer’s decision to go with Locke. I get that Rousseau doesn’t want to leave the island, but I don’t quite get why Alex and Karl go with Locke, unless they just want to stay with “family”.
Jack’s group—
I think Sayid stays with Jack because he knows that even if the rescuers are “bad” that the survivors can deal with whatever they bring. We know that Juliette desperately wants to get off the island. I loved Rose’s answer to Bernard when he asks if she wants to stay (knowing that if she leaves her cancer will probably return)… “I’m not going anywhere with THAT man!” Smart cookie! I think Kate stayed simply out of loyalty (not love) for Jack. Finally, why does Desmond stay, even after he’s been warned that it’s “not Penny’s boat”? I’m not sure. We don’t know if he’s had any more flashes that would give him insight as to what is to come. He’s a mystery to me.
As I said in my previous post, I really hate Locke right now. I was entirely ecstatic when Jack “shot” Locke. It doesn’t matter that the gun wasn’t loaded, I still loved the moment.
It’s kind of disturbing that I really liked all of the violent moments in the show…
I particularly loved Danielle for slugging Ben’s face when he called Alex “his” daughter. In fact, I’m very pleased with all of the beating that Ben is taking!
One of the gentle moments that I loved took place when Hurley was talking with Bernard about his lottery winnings. He was expressing how freeing it would be to get back to the real world, where the money won’t matter any more. Particularly sad when juxtaposed against what we’ve seen of Hurley’s future.
Hurley’s always been one of my favorite characters. It’s nice to know that Hurley is “special”… that he too has a connection to the spirit of the Island.
I’m wondering why Hurley saw Jacob in the form of Jack’s dad! Does Jacob present “himself” to each person differently? Does he take on different forms? What is the significance of Hurley’s vision?
There’s been much discussion about the “eye” that Hurley saw and to whom it belonged. My first (and still strongest) impression is that it belongs to Locke… he had been back to the cabin to commune with Jacob and get “further instructions”.
I laughed on my second viewing of the episode when Kate once again screws up by taking events into her own hands (remember when she followed Jack, Locke and Sawyer out to meet Mr. Friendly in season 2). She thinks she is helping by tracking Naomi, but ultimately her actions allow Naomi to warn her cohorts on the freighter.
Another reason I hate Locke: I hate how he preyed on Hurley’s grief when trying to convince Hurley to follow him. I think that if it hadn’t been for Locke’s pushing he would have stayed with Jack.
Although I will give this to Locke, he genuinely appeared sympathetic when he witnessed Hurley telling Claire that Charlie was dead.
But I got extremely angry again when Locke tells the gathered survivors “All I have ever done has been in the best interest of all of us.” To that I say CRAP!!! See my comment in the post below.
Finally a note about the split:
Locke’s group--
In the context presented in the episode, I understand Hurley, Claire and Sawyer’s decision to go with Locke. I get that Rousseau doesn’t want to leave the island, but I don’t quite get why Alex and Karl go with Locke, unless they just want to stay with “family”.
Jack’s group—
I think Sayid stays with Jack because he knows that even if the rescuers are “bad” that the survivors can deal with whatever they bring. We know that Juliette desperately wants to get off the island. I loved Rose’s answer to Bernard when he asks if she wants to stay (knowing that if she leaves her cancer will probably return)… “I’m not going anywhere with THAT man!” Smart cookie! I think Kate stayed simply out of loyalty (not love) for Jack. Finally, why does Desmond stay, even after he’s been warned that it’s “not Penny’s boat”? I’m not sure. We don’t know if he’s had any more flashes that would give him insight as to what is to come. He’s a mystery to me.
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